The 700R4 Transmission, Chapter 1
Read MoreI just scored this 700R4 transmission from a guy in Houston that is/was an idiot. I'm sorry, he just is. Anyway, after having him count the input shaft splines (30) and I could see the MD8 case in the ad pic, I decided to take the chance. Since the case is an MD8, and it had a 30 spline input shaft (the older 27 spline isn't as strong), and the fact that he said that he had paid $1,400 for it, but in the process of upgrading his Torque converter, the guy put spacers between the engine and bell housing (stupid or what?), because I suspect he did not jiggle it around enough to get the front pump dogs to engage, and thought it was in as far as it was going to go. What the heck, I paid $150 for it, which is the going rate for a trashed core...
Update 2/23/2015 - I ran across an Ebay ad that had a picture of a 700R4 transmission painted the same color as the one I bought. The ad was placed by "Mad Dog Transmissions", so I called them and gave the lady who answered the phone these codes stamped on the top rear of the transmission. She confirmed that these codes mean: "RM" the initials of the person who built it, "L3" is Level 3 (650 HP rated), and the "2" means it has a number 2 shift kit already installed. Not to bad mouth MAD DOG TRANSMISSIONS, but you will see in later photos where I replaced the cast aluminum pressure plates with steel ones, which is THE ONLY way to go for a high performance transmission, maybe... ahahah. Additionally, it seemed that just about all the parts in the "guts" were stock parts, but then again, I'm no expert at this point, but I might be by the time I get done with this thing...ahaha
You can see one of the two broken dogs inside the seal. But that's ok. I can get a new 10 or 13 vane (latest design) pump internals for about 30 bucks. Will probably select a different torque converter anyway. As it turned out, I bought an entire new pump, as this one had lots of damage to the housing, too.
These are the original cast aluminum apply pistons that I learned from an instruction video that have a habit of cracking due to high stresses. Recommended getting '93 or later steel pistons, which I did. These go to the dump. NOTE: See the last picture of this gallery for a picture of replacement forged steel piston that I replaced these with..Note : Don't think a transmission rated for 650 horsepower would have these pressure plates, but of course I could be wrong. Steel ones were not very expensive anyway...
Band, new pan gasket, and the 2-4 apply servo. Supposed to be a Corvette servo, though the numbers are from Transtar catalog, that was modified. See page in instruction sheets for what I did on the apply piston. Small parts on right are aux. control body and accumulator. Didn't use the gasket, as the new deep pan came with silicon gasket.
Front drum with Raybestos BRAND NEW Z-PAC clutch plates. Turns out there was ZERO wear on bushings and band and clutches. The other drum slides over the drum on the left. I did not replace any of the parts except for the steel pistons and kit parts. the reverse drum on the right is a little troublesome due to wear pattern ... looks like it's pretty much used for a long time, but.. Nobody has driven it/used it since it was rebuilt... hmmm.. the surface that the band rides on bothers me, but I'll use it anyway. Trying to keep costs down.... UPDATE: See Chapter 2.... I eventually bought a new drum....
The Transgo kit has a number of aluminum plugs to block off some of the holes in the separator plate to change fluid flow paths/characteristics. Hammered plugs before filing flat. I didn't see any evidence of any modifications to the plate nor anything else in the valve body. Everything mentioned in the Transgo instructions for "stock" parts to do something with were what was in this transmission.
Bought a TransGo 700-2&3 kit to upgrade for performance. Did the procedure for FULL RACE-AUTOMATIC. The STICK SHIFT option just doesn't sound appealing. I NOTICED THAT THE INSTRUCTION SHEET WAS PRINTED IN 2009, SIX YEARS AGO........WONDER IF THERE'VE BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE KIT SINCE THEN ?? SLIGHTLY CONCERNED......
UPDATE: This 2-4 Servo was removed and a SONNAX full kit was installed. See Chapter 2 for the installation of the SONNAX. .....As it turns out , the numbers on the 2nd piston are TranStar part numbers (61986-1 and -2 with another mark - T/S which I guess means TranStar), which indicate some sort of after market Corvette servo, maybe....The diameter of the 2nd piston shoulder that slides into the housing is 1.75". Don't know what a Corvette servo is supposed to be..
Mine had the cast aluminum piston/springs shown on the left (As in, originally from GM). Got a new 2nd type springs and steel piston, changed out the springs to the kit springs. The installation washer is used when you put the thing in a press to take off the retainer snap ring to avoid bending. ATTENTION ! GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE, CLICK ON "HOME", THEN SCROLL DOWN AGAIN TO "THE 700R4 TRANSMISSION, CHAPTER 2" FOR THE "SECOND BUILD/REBUILD"... PISSED ME OFF..